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Mannie Fresh Recalls Seeing Lil Wayne Drinking, Recording “Fuck Tha World”, His Parents & More

Fri, Jan 13, 2017 by

Mannie Fresh Recalls Seeing Lil Wayne Drinking, Recording Fuck Tha World, His Parents & More

Mannie Fresh recently took part in an interview with The FADER to share a lot of cool stories about Lil Wayne in the early days of his music career, which you can read in full below.

In the conversation, Mannie spoke on what it was like first meeting Wayne before he signed to Cash Money Records, the first time hearing him rap, his parents Cita and Rabbit, and the B.G.’z group consisting of Weezy and B.G.

Fresh also discussed witnessing Tunechi recording his “Fuck Tha World” track, recalled seeing him drinking, having no childhood, the Hot Boys studio sessions, Tune always trying to out-rap anyone on a song, and plenty more!

When I first met Wayne he was somewhere around 12 or 13 years old — he wasn’t actually getting signed to Cash Money. His parents didn’t want him to rap at all but that was his thing. His dad was this real street-savvy dude that told me, “Bro, I’ll let him rap but as long as he gets his grades up to par.” I think what they had in their minds was, “We’re gonna put some pressure on you and that’s gonna make you not wanna do it.” After our first introduction, I was thinking That’s not going to really work for him [Wayne] because it’s obvious that school work is not hard for him. You could tell he was a very intelligent kid. He was a kid genius. It wasn’t nothing for him to do homework. I thought rap was something that Wayne needed to do to channel some of the things that he wasn’t learning in school and some of the things that he wanted to say.

Before the Hot Boys, the first group that he was in was called The B.G.’z and the members were just B.G. and Wayne. Juvenile wasn’t even signed and Turk was nowhere in sight. The reason why B.G.’s name just became just B.G. was because at first, Wayne’s parents took him out the group because of some outside issues with bad behavior. I guess he must’ve complained so much to his mom and dad that they let him come back six months to a year later. He was officially on Cash Money, he was 15. The deal was, his mom told him he could rap but he couldn’t say curse words. We wondered, “How you goin’ fit in with this shit? This is the street.” Early on, Wayne’s genius was that he never cursed but he still got the message across and his verses were just as hard as B.G.’s. B.G. was already street-savvy. The dude knew everything that you could know about breaking down drugs, guns, and all of that. Wayne sort’ve had the understanding of it from being around us but, it was like, So how do you talk about this without using curse words or without saying certain things?

The first time I heard him rap I thought, This little kid is phenomenal. He did the homework on everything. If we were talking about something, Wayne went and researched it. If we said on the name of a gun was a Serafina, he was a kid who went home, looked it up, and came back and knew everything about it. So when he rapped about it, he knew stuff that we didn’t even know. While we’re saying the raps, it would be a weird moment in the studio where’d he be like, “Oh that gun was made in Germany in 1947 and so and so used it.” If he didn’t know it, he’d figure it out so he could talk about it on a record.

A lot of them [Hot Boys] didn’t know what a rhyme scheme was but Wayne did so he was teaching B.G. some things. He’d be like, “Okay bro, you could actually have the first word rhyme and then at the end of another line you could have another, rhyme. It doesn’t have to go the usual way where the words just rhyme at the end of each sentence.” For him to teach structure, it was just like this dude gonna be something because he’s bringing another element to it. So even when the Hot Boys started, some of the hooks were Wayne’s ideas — he set up the pace. Let’s just say it was a Hot Boys song and that day we were supposed to record only Juvenile’s songs. If Juvie didn’t show up, Wayne killed that song. He made everybody wanna rap better. He would be like, “I wish he [Juvenile] don’t show up because I’m gon’ kill his verse.” It was that friendly competition and if anybody messed up or something, he was there. He’d be like, “I gotta hook for it. I gotta line for it. I know what to put right there.”

Say we did a song and Juvie shined on it. The next day, Wayne was like, “I got 12 songs.” That’s what made him have that edge. His thing was like, “Nah, you killed me on that song so I’m coming back the next day with way more songs and I promise that it’s gonna be formatted and I’m going to be ready for it.” He would show up to record and he already knew his raps. They [Hot Boys] all loved this so much. We were averaging at recording at least three or four songs a day everyday no matter what.

By the age of 17, Wayne was confident. He knew This is what I am, I’m an MC. You had Missy Elliott saying she loved Lil Wayne. Lyrically, he was getting better and better. He arrived as a young kid and then for Missy to acknowledge him, it was like he had made it. Tha Block Is Hot came out when he was 17. The single, “Tha Block Is Hot” was a song that was true to life. Wayne’s from Hollygrove so it was like he went home, looked at the block, and was just like “Man it’s real out here. I just wanna write this album from the perspective of, this is Hollygrove, this is my block. It was more of just a reality song, all you had to do was go outside for inspiration. Everything that we did was based on something real. The name Hot Boys was based on a time in New Orleans where if you were really doing something or if the police were looking for you people would be like “He hot. That boy hot.”

At that time, there was a lot going on in Wayne’s life with everything like him losing his dad young, and not understanding how the streets operate. He realized, “Okay, there’s no love in the streets it don’t matter if you’re a good dude.” It was better for him to put into his music because things were weighing heavy on him. Prior to him recording the song, “Fuck the World,” I remember seeing Wayne drinking. I was like, “Dude what the fuck is going on what are you doing?” He was just like, “I’m stressed I just have a lot going on right now.” I remember this like yesterday — him having a bottle of champagne and drinking it. I was like, “Nobody ain’t gon’ tell dude nothing? Y’all just gon’ let him do this shit?”

I’ve said to him, “Honestly bro, it’s kinda nuts that people don’t get this, but when you don’t really have a childhood some things that happened sometimes is because that’s what went on.” Wayne is not the average. He is somebody who gave his life to music young. So, some of the mistakes that he made or makes sometimes is because he never really had the chance to do shit that kids his age age did. It’s like, he was on tour, he was doing things that he probably shouldn’t have been doing. When me and him talk about kids I’m like, “You goin’ make mistakes in life. It all depends on what you do to better your life and better yourself but I get it. I totally get it because if you missed something then all of a sudden the light comes on and you want that.”

Wayne was just special at a young age and somebody who would observe the room. He wasn’t the loud kid. He used to come in there and look at who was who and who made things shake. He’d find out information on what was being talked about, and come back and kill it.

I don’t even know if he remembers this but, we had a conversation and Wayne was just like, “I feel like I’m old enough now. I wanna curse. I’d rather not be a hypocrite and be cursing by myself.” I’m asked him, “What’s the idea?” He says “Well, I got this song that I wanna do and it’s kind of heartfelt so it’s gotta be like that.” That’s when he did “Fuck the World,” and I could tell just by the emotions in him that this was real. The way he wrote it wasn’t gimmicky. This was a kid who made more than a lot of adults at the time but they were tryna get him to do adult things. You had other people that were around him that were like, “Well shit, I’m going to exploit you. You’re making money, you’re supposed to take care of us.” Rap was the outlet that he needed because he had so much going on and needed to scream at the world.

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  • Thought this was gone be a video Lol

    • Giraffe Boy

      but y

    • Weezy504

      Can’t read?

  • Giraffe Boy

    would you be with a girl who went clubbing every week?

    • Giraffe Boy

      and no meme for this one cause I’m serious

    • TRUKFIT

      NOT EVERY WEEK NO

    • Weezy4prez

      Hell naw

    • Raz!

      nooooo

  • TRUKFIT

    LOOK I DONT CURSE BUT IN THIS VERSE MAN FUCK THE WORLD

    SUCH A CLASSIC TRACK

  • Dez Tunechi Ansah

    Good read

    • TunechiBomeback2017

      Wayne the realist to ever do it. 🙌🏻

  • TooReal

    That nigga kodak a weird ass dude how you show up to a interview with a robber mask on and he dodging all question on why he starting beef with wayne with silience lol this nigga wack

    • CA$H KIDD #DRACO GANG

      Kodak has problems man you can just look at him and tell lol don’t pay it too much mind bruh.

      • TooReal

        Lol i see who tha fuck signed this nigga lmao

        • CA$H KIDD #DRACO GANG

          😂😂😂😂 Fr lol, I ain’t gon lie he has a couple of heat songs but after all these L’s he won’t be relevant this year lol he already been losing buzz since he got home

          • TooReal

            Lmao i never heard a kodak song so im not gone judge his music but the way he betray himself i dont even want to bother giving him a listen beside everytime i give these new rappers a chance they disappoint lol

            • yobezzal901

              Listen to the gospel song he got talent im speaking from a non bias point of view bc im a wayne fan fr

          • Weezy504

            All his songs are trash.

    • Patrick H

      Embarrassing

    • Raz!

      fuck him and his awkward interviews

  • D’wayne Newton

    Who gonna be honest and actually say they read this whole entire book above about what Mannie said ? Personally I’ll rather wait till the video surface online.

    • Patrick H

      I read it all, I found it a good read. I’d say it’s worth reading, it took me about a minute.

    • JTLivinRight

      I read it.

  • Wait On It⏳

    So is birdman and Wayne beefing or nah 😏

    • Patrick H

      No one really knows.

  • Patrick H

    Interesting read, fuck Kodak.

  • Raz!

    so is he saying wayne used to be an alcoholic?

  • ovokush

    Fuck Tha World underrated

  • Weezy4prez

    It’d be pretty dope if lil wayne did a Halloween or Friday the 13th themed tape. Songs like rap cemetery and told yall and sacrifice are dope af. Wish he’d drop an entire tape with songs like that

    • Nathaniel Diaz

      And money or graveyard..those all are tough ass tracks, especially told yall n sacrifice

  • One of my Top Favorite !!
    I know this hard by heart 🔥🔥🔥
    https://youtu.be/n07MZ9gvnBA

  • Wait On It⏳

    Reginae got so fine 😻

  • Tuned #BWA #POP

    Wayne posted up with Rich

  • #1Stunna

    mad respek for mannie. I feel like he is the only dude that kept it real with Wayne.

    • Tuned #BWA #POP

      Don’t forget Gudda

  • jbmurder47

    Catch up

    • Tuned #BWA #POP

      Wop

      • jbmurder47

        What up

        • Tuned #BWA #POP

          Return of east Atlanta still flame

          • jbmurder47

            Why u flexing boy u don’t want no smoke 🔫🔫🔥🔥

            • Tuned #BWA #POP

              In the strip club chillin so nonchalant

  • jbmurder47

    Kodak gonna knock Wayne stupid ass out lmao 😭

    • Tuned #BWA #POP

      😭😭

      • jbmurder47

        Lmao Kodak a fool

        • Tuned #BWA #POP

          You see his breakfast club interview?

  • Wait On It⏳

    Bruh D6 need to drop😤

  • Wayne retired bruh 😐😐

    • Tunefan1234

      Lmao sure

  • Longest drought weve ever been it

  • CA$H KIDD #DRACO GANG

    If Wayne don’t drop something by April I’m off the Wayne train, this is ridiculous at this point!

    • Wait On It⏳

      Tbh

  • CA$H KIDD #DRACO GANG

    Kodak has even said hes a Wayne fan lol he just probably mad about this drought just like us lol I wanna knock Wayne out too since we still ain’t got D6😂

  • #1Stunna

    Possible Cash money going out of business. They just trying to postpone to get nicki’s and drake’s projects out.

    • Nijee

      Nigga Wayne hasn’t drop retail Album since 2013

      • #1Stunna

        and?

    • 🦄.

      k.

      • #1Stunna

        Just watch.

      • #1Stunna

        Let’s just make babies.

        • 🦄.

          One simply does not make babies with a 🦄. This is an impossible task.

          • #1Stunna

            Lol.

  • Nijee

    Wayne Always in the studio but Can’t drop project

  • Thuggery
    • Wait On It⏳

      Lmao hell naw

  • Mula EL

    CTG asked that boy Kodak why not rap it out with Wayne to become the best rapper alive… I waited for his response but all I heard was crickets 😂😂 he know Wayne still the goat

  • Weezy4prez

    Anyone else get the feeling like wayne don’t care as much as he used to? I know he says he does. But the way he acts, performs and even the sound and quality of his music just seems like he does it because he feels he HAS to. Not that he wants to. I can see it easily just through the way he performs for concerts and his lack of self promotion

    • Weezy4prez

      Look at his c3 and c4 promotion and concerts. They were little af and he did everythingl he could to stay hype and relevant. Tbh I don’t think he wants fame anymore

      • Weezy4prez

        I don’t blame him though. I think his situation with birdman did it. I think it killed his drive. For a bit he rekindled it with s4tw2 and FWA but I think even he has lost hope.

    • WeezyLEF

      No. What people dont get is that every musician reaches a peak point in their careers and then they start falling off gradually. This is natural, it happens to everyone and thats because media’s preferences change as well as fans’ tastes change over time, so it is extremely hard for an artist, especially a rapper, to stay hot throughout their whole run. Wayne has already reached that peak point, and (for) now we see him falling off. He doesnt seem so hungry (at least as far as his lyrical substance) anymore because he already had his run, he has established his name in Hip Hop and he has made a lotta money from it. On the contrary though, he does it now not because he has something to prove, but because he wants to. Also, he doesnt get promoted much, because he doesnt have something buzzing currently. Around the time C5 was going to drop he had the tour with Drake, the Beats commercial, magazine cover, some interviews, then he went on the S4TW2 tour, you had the Samsung commercials…but now what? What did he drop that got people’s positive feedback? FWA was an exclusive and NC2 didnt live up to the expectations… All Im saying is just be patient, once they start dropping music again and start building the hype, people will show interest again, and hopefully Wayne goes into retirement like his Hip Hop status suggests to.

      • Weezy4prez

        You right

  • Lil E

    This is why I fuck with wayne so heavy mane not only is the best rapper alive but this nigga intelligent with the books and all most these new niggas is dumb as fuck and don’t have no knowledge and won’t be relevant for long

  • Khosta

    GOAT

  • Jessica King

    Yes indeed, Awsome read. Funny “cause over here in Australia, we say the same thing if police after u all the time, “he’s hot, or “that house is hot”