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Birdman Speaks On His Relationships With Lil Wayne, Drake & Young Thug + Says He Is Forever In Business With All Of Them [Video]

Mon, Feb 24, 2020 by

Birdman Speaks On His Relationships With Lil Wayne, Drake & Young Thug + Says He Is Forever In Business With All Of Them

Birdman recently sat down with Nadeska Alexis, Wayno and DJ Akademiks for an interview on their “Everyday Struggle” show, which you can watch below.

During their conversation, Baby spoke on his “great relationship” with Lil Wayne and Drake, putting the past behind them, how he is “forever in business with them”, and how he stays relevant in different music eras.

The #1 Stunna also explained why he never reacted to Wayne disrespecting him at shows, learning about streaming before it became a thing, his documentary with Spotify called “New Cash Order“, taking Young Thug under his wing, and much more!

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  • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

    Wasn’t it Birdman that tried to block C5’s release when Tez suggested they should make it available through streaming ?

  • Sippin Jameson and I’m drippin tell her take a splash here💦
    https://soundcloud.com/khosta44/khosta-jameson

    • King Slime Thugger

      BP Bizness, GOAT shit

  • K9OUSSAY

    what’s up y’all 👀🤘🏼

    • LORD QUAS

      What up

  • HeroinWayne

    There is a reason Drake replaced Wayne with Future

    • KarTune2.0

      You got that reason at hand or

    • LORD QUAS

      It’s because Wayne would kill him on any track, while future won’t

      • HeroinWayne

        No lol it’s bcz after Wayne gave that Hype remix verse they knew, NEVER AGAIN

        • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

          That hype remix is heavy fym?

          • HeroinWayne

            Drake made Wayne look silly lol

        • LORD QUAS

          Lol that was trash

        • That verse was hard

    • Raz!

      no

  • Dr Carter

    Of course he’s in business with all of them. It was a life contract

    • LORD QUAS

      Lmao

    • HeroinWayne

      Lol

    • Raz!

      lol

  • Ultra Instinct Yamcha Get Hoes

    Y’all gotta hear that Scottie Pippen og

    • RktDaKid

      Link

      • Goat Tamer

        mega. nz/#F!SA830JRD!dMT1Kz–RIOCo7K6r7cnBA

        There’s all the snippets in here

    • ReGuarlyiiRReGular

      There’s an og Scottie Pippen?

      • Tunefan1234

        It’s a 2018 Scottie pippen

      • Ultra Instinct Yamcha Get Hoes

        My bad it’s the 2018 Scottie Pippen not the og but it’s different from the one that leaked a few months ago it’s in the batch of 18 wayne songs that’s being sold for 5k , so y’all should expect to hear the songs soon because they will leak just know I’m the one that told y’all about this

        • ReGuarlyiiRReGular

          Yeah it’s weird voice sounds exactly the same to me but the beat definitely different.

    • Raz!

      it cant be better because that scottie pippen song is already perfect

      • Ultra Instinct Yamcha Get Hoes

        The beat sounded better

  • Dr Carter

    The modern Suge Knight

  • King Slime Thugger

    Lmao damn, birdman looking at wayne in that picture like ‘cut that bacteria on your head youngin’

    • Dr Carter

      Ahahahahahahahah he has no mercy

    • HeroinWayne

      Loool that’s FACTS

  • King Slime Thugger

    Btw i got triggacity&Khosta recording on the same song hehehe. History in the making..BP/RSR Shit SKRRRRRR

  • David D

    I gained more respect for birdman from this

  • K9OUSSAY

    the new snippet of scottie Reproduced or something ? i just heard the snippet

    • HeroinWayne

      No cap? Is it sounding better

      • K9OUSSAY

        yah the instrumental so clear but his voice is the same 🤷‍♀️

        • HeroinWayne

          I don’t expect a different voice anymore he’s addicted to drenched autotune lool

    • Goat Tamer

      It was reworked back in 2018.. Probably why he “freestyled” it over the best rapper alive beat in Lil Weezyana.. There’s probably going to be some vocal changes like Open Safe, Mona Lisa, Famous etc but we’re not sure yet

  • Tuned #Umar

    Birdman belong on hip hop mt Rushmore, nigga a genius

    • Wattblt 🚫🧢

      Top 5 top 5

  • Dr Carter

    Wayne drippin as hell.. Latecia just need to tell him to fix his dreads and he’ll be lit

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      no sir

      • Dr Carter

        You don’t like his recent fit ?

        • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

          what pic?

    • Jamez

      You gonna donate to GB?

      • Dr Carter

        I don’t know about that one chief..

        • Jamez

          Why

          • Dr Carter

            I got other things to buy

      • nino brown.

        where??

    • King Slime Thugger

      Nah first thing he gotta do is tell that whale of a woman to get tf out the skate park, she ruining his drip wit all that fat no kap

      • Dr Carter

        Wt heck 😳

        • King Slime Thugger

          😈😈

    • Raz!

      if she tells him to fix his hair then he got to tell her to lose weight

      • LORD QUAS

        Lmaoo

      • Dr Carter

        That’s tuff..

        • Raz!

          true tho

  • Dr Carter

    😔😔😔

  • King Slime Thugger

    yooo that AVI go hard asf lmaoo, ima use that at some point no kap

  • JT

    Just “Ok Boomer”d my boss, turn uppppp!! 🥂

    • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

      Cringe

  • Tunechi_DS

    That’s all these dudes ask Baby anymore, Hows your relationship with wayne and drake

    • Raz!

      its big questions we want to know the answers to

  • Tuned #Umar
    • Wordplay 187

      Leave me some space

      • Tuned #Umar

        🤔 word

        • Wordplay 187

          We can definitely body some shit together

          • Tuned #Umar

            Bet my mic coming today so it’s up

            • Wordplay 187

              Oh shit I’ll even mix your shit if you want

              • Tuned #Umar

                Legend

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      We gon work together yerd

      • Tuned #Umar

        Yerrrrrrr

    • JT
    • King Slime Thugger

      😈😈😈

    • RSB

      ItsUP ! My boy bike

      • Tuned #Umar

        Time to kill these niggas

    • Ultra Instinct Yamcha Get Hoes

      Would like to do a feature no cap

  • ✨luh uzi vert✨

    I’ve noticed Drake and Thug in the headlines a lot lately the slime takeover is real 🐍

  • Raz!

    good watch

  • Dr Carter

    TNT

  • JT

    Kinda wish Wayne woulda jumped on the beat for that diss track Thugnificent made on Grandad. Ah.. legendary 🤣

  • RSB

    Lol birdman funny asf to me

    • Giraffe Boy

      and to me

  • King Slime Thugger

    Triggs & Tuned back on the mic at the same time, RSR bakk in effect?

    • Wordplay 187

      I didn’t triggs rapped

      • King Slime Thugger

        He told me he was gon record his verse last night, i think he stopped for a while

        • I’m bout to do it rn lol

          • King Slime Thugger

            🐍🐍🐍🐍 LEGENDARY BIZZNESS

          • King Slime Thugger

            Email me a old song of yours too btw

      • King Slime Thugger

        Yall on the same song as long as everything goes to plan hehe, khosta said he’d be done by the end of the week

        • Wordplay 187

          Sounds lit to me

          • King Slime Thugger

            You gon kill it as usual 🐐🐐🐐

      • 😈😈

        • Wordplay 187

          Nigga makes beats then kills them

  • King Slime Thugger

    LBMG really is a thing of the past now hehehehe

  • Kon Akillo

    Whoever produced Fwa need to produce all Wayne albums

  • ✨luh uzi vert✨

    My bitch Foreign
    Don’t know where she from ain’t tryna be racist

    • King Slime Thugger

      🏄🏽‍♂️🏄🏽‍♂️🏄🏽‍♂️🏄🏽‍♂️🏄🏽‍♂️💘

  • Tuned #Umar

    Boys this bitch hard so far but now i done got writers block 💆🏽‍♂️

  • BRAZY WRLD #999 #24&2

    I just woke up with some new tattoos
    I just woke up next to who is you and you and you
    Got the groupie blues, whoop de woo, hooty hoo
    Make they dreams come true then I put ’em back on snooze

  • Mk

    MkXwordXkst boming soon

    • Wordplay 187

      BodyBagSZN

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Tuned ima listen to yo old music while i do my homework today💫💖🌸

    • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

      Boy boutta get a PhD in no time 💪😎

      • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

        We gon find out if tunes spit that real shit or not🙈🙈🙈

    • Tuned #Umar

      Yesssir

  • Wattblt 🚫🧢

    I just popped a perc another for dessert I washed it down with purp just left planet earth ran into Captain Kirk

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Do anyone sip tho fr

    • Giraffe Boy

      naw its pointless

    • Mk

      I sip lean

      • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

        Same bro, that’s what I’m asking

    • KarTune2.0

      You really sip ?

      • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

        yup

        • KarTune2.0

          What’s that like bro? Always wondered

          • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

            Everything is a little slower and music sounds better. But it’s not like weed because you are def more aware of your body and surroundings. It’s just something to wind down on tbh

    • ✨luh uzi vert✨

      Yessir I tried to slow down tho

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    HQ on its rap shit 🔥🔥🔥 the game getting bigger

  • Wordplay 187
    • Tuned #Umar

      Chef on these beats

      • Wordplay 187

        Everyone getting bodied if you back on the scene

  • A.

    Lil Wayne ft. Gucci Mane – We Be Steady Mobbin (Official Video)

  • Jameis Winston

    Lmao Stephanie Acevedo really made a song with Antonio Brown??

    • LORD QUAS

      Damn I forgot this bitch existed lol

    • K9OUSSAY

      She got some 5s of fame when she is around lil Wayne even her Ig got bigger

  • Lil Burb

    My tranny beat me up when she drunk 🤕😓

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      Man you fr

      • Lil Burb

        Chill Cuh

  • Wordplay 187

    KST I sent you other side I’ll finish Iraq tomorrow

    • King Slime Thugger

      Check ur inbox

  • Malik

    Yall stay talking bout wayne not healthy but birdman looking real puffy in that pic

    • K9OUSSAY

      U expected birdman with sixpacks 🤣🤣 ?

      • Malik

        Nah but even in the 90s he wasn’t fat

  • Lil Burb

    Wayne killed the i do it hook. I think one of his best use of auto tune and melodicly singing with it. Song should have a video mane.

    • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

      The hook is Big Sean’s though, Wayne is just harmonizing. But the hook overall does sound good

    • Patrick H

      I hate that song.

      • Lil Burb

        Why Cuh

  • King Slime Thugger

    I LOVE WORDPLAY 187. Truly underrated and imo the best right now on HQ…FOREVER IN BIDNESSSSSS

    • Wordplay 187

      Didn’t know if you wanted me to sing or not lmfao🐍🐍

      • King Slime Thugger

        What you did was perfect my guy🔥🔥🔥🔥

        • Wordplay 187

          Glad you fw it bro

  • King Slime Thugger

    Wordplay,Khosta & Drizzyf my idols

  • Lil Burb

    Bieber moved 230K first week . Big drop off from his last album .. i think it did +600K. but 230K not shabby .

    • K9OUSSAY

      He ain’t got big singles and he ain’t the same as his younger version

      • Lil Burb

        Yea true . His singles were flops, bieber too good to drop some bs like yummy . He also shoula put that 10,000 hrs song on there .

        • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

          Or maybe Bieber is too trash to drop something better than Yummy…

          • Lil Burb

            Hmm

    • THATS BAD

      • Lil Burb

        Yea for him . In general not too shabby . Kinda

  • YoungMoneyhandgun

    “They can’t break my strength, they can only lock me up physically, but they can’t lock up my mind or lock up up my heart They can only take my time because the law allows them to. Time is precious, but love is life and they can’t take my heart. So, therefore, in the end my love will prevail.”

    -Lil Wayne

    • SONG?

      • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

        This is what he told MTV before going to jail

      • Patrick H

        Does that sound like a song to you?

      • YoungMoneyhandgun

        It’s from the Nino Brown: Road 2 Riker’s documentary

  • Mk

    Me and my slimes got new song boming soon

    • Wordplay 187

      Tomorrow bro

  • Mk

    Kst do u got twitter ?

    • King Slime Thugger

      Bro everytime I make a new account they instantly block me

      • Lil Burb

        Well maybe U should stop trynna look up my skirt all da time nd u wouldnt b gettn blocked

        • King Slime Thugger

          Then stop wearing short ones you tease 🙈

          • Lil Burb

            😛

  • BRRRRRRRR

    • A.

      sooncome

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    lmao Tuned trying to leave the beat on Y’all Don’t Hear Me Tho

  • Used to look up to a man from certain ends with tune on repeat
    Thought he was a bad boy, then ’til man got pinched and man went PC

  • Wordplay 187

    Can’t wait for the Other side of world mega remix

  • JT

    You can tell the Lost Grails were recorded around the D4 days. Just the voice. Which was different to the RAF voice. They sure told this man to water that album down, lmao

    • Ultra Instinct Yamcha Get Hoes

      Wtf are you talking about

      • JT

        Fuck outta here Goku

    • Patrick H

      You sure?

      • JT

        I assume

  • Hunter Yates

    Never trust someone that can bleed for 5 days and live. Meaning a woman. Or a snake because they can live days after you kill them

  • Armando Aka Kermit #Funeral

    I hate deez nigguz like mustard im disgusted 🤢

    • Patrick H

      Fire.

  • Lil Burb

    Somewhere in an alternate universe Young Thug Released hy!£un35 and we aint got it😡

  • A.

    ima need some medication

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Lil Mosey – Blueberry Faygo > I Do It

    • Lil Burb

      Never thought i hear something like this from you jake . Them other folks yeah but not u jake . Damn.

      • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

        Sorry for preaching😈😈😈

    • ✨luh uzi vert✨

      Preaching

  • Patrick H

    That’s life.

  • Wattblt 🚫🧢

    Nae getting fine

    • SteveJobs

      I would nut in her bootyhole rns

  • SteveJobs

    When drake said king slime drizzy

    • SteveJobs

      That’s my mood

  • SteveJobs

    I know sometimes life sucks but baby it’s a tittie,
    All these rappers poo poo remind me of Winnie,
    I cop an Aston Martin dont sip on the Remy,
    She go South Park retarded while riding my jimmy

    I’m in space smoking neutrons,
    My bed cost 3 bands, I used to sleep on futons

    • A.

      and the best rap song award goes to:
      stevejobs

      • SteveJobs

        Rns

  • Tuned #Umar

    I need a singer mane

  • Wordplay 187

    On the other side of the world I met this girl
    And it’s been world Peace ever since I met her (Metta World Peace) 🎵🎵

  • Lil Burb

    Should wayne continue to take pride despite being greatly less successful compared to Drake hes the main creative creator of his content versus drake who has a team coming up with his shit or is wayne being foolish ?

    • A.

      wayne is a pioneer
      drake has a good voice but rehashes stuff

      • Lil Burb

        I appreciate your feed back good sir A.

    • HeroinWayne

      Wayne being foolish lol he is looked highly upon and he’s constantly being a disappointment,at this point in his career he NEEDS a real team and somebody to work on his sound and music making, even if he wanted to just rap bar for bar there’s a better way to do it instead of drenched in Auto tune

      • Lil Burb

        Good perspective.

    • SteveJobs

      Wayne should do wtf he wants bro he is a legend.

      But yeah aside from drake comparisons, he would benefit greatly from having young people like trippie redd in the studio with him to help with melodies

      He doesn’t need someone to help him with bars, but he could use some testosterone replacement therapy which would not only improve his health but it would deepen his voice.. most guys around 40 start declining in testosterone and could benefit from that (I don’t mean steroids, this doesn’t have side effects and is only for older men)

      • Lil Burb

        Good points . The testerone thing is interesting.

        • K9OUSSAY

          🤣🤣 lol

      • osamaabinladen

        u gay

  • drizzy

    Yall HQ rappers are hella garbage 😂 but if yall tryna be funny with it then good job.

    • K9OUSSAY

      There is some energy tbh they need a real production lol metro boomin or something 🤣

      • drizzy

        Nah that shit is legit laughable

    • Dr Carter

      670 comments 6300 upvotes .. wtffff

  • K9OUSSAY

    Been watching some travis Scott and other rappers recording process in the studio, mannn anyone can rap today, producers making it happen they need more shine

    • SteveJobs

      Any average Joe can’t make their vocal cords produce the sounds travis scott does when he raps tho.. people underestimate how important delivery is

  • SteveJobs

    Lmao

    people will hate but 2011 wayne was best wayne tbh listen to C4 bro

    • LORD QUAS

      Fr he was conscious and smart

  • SteveJobs

    I also think he didn’t sip lean til like 06

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      no he been doing it since at least 2003

      • Dabulls10

        My dawg was rolling back then too. Always rapped about E

  • SteveJobs

    Wayne is too high too know what’s good for him financially. Birdman just smokes weed he knows what he’s doing

    • LORD QUAS

      Exactly

  • SteveJobs

    Would you rather trust BIRDMAN or wayne to handle your money?

    • SteveJobs

      Wayne would get high and not know what to do with it

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Blood Pressure verse is still awesome

  • Lil Burb

    Im waiting on zaya wade to turn 18 . She gon b mine only

    • LORD QUAS

      Stop

      • Lil Burb

        I cant help myself cuh

        • LORD QUAS

          You need some drugs

          • Lil Burb

            I need some of dat bussy . Bust it open nigga .. i aint playn 🔫👿

            • LORD QUAS

              Nah

  • WizzleFizzle

    “Wayne’s takeover” 1 and 2 from “the mind of Mannie fresh” underrated af. Lil Chuckee definitely got inspired by those two songs when he did “before tune gets back” from D5

    • LORD QUAS

      I wonder wtf happened to Lil chuckee

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      takeover 2 heat fr

  • Lil Burb

    Stephanie got a track with Antonio brown on WS. Ab a clown .

    • ✨luh uzi vert✨

      His last track 🚮🚮🚮

      • Lil Burb

        All his trscks boo boo

        • ✨luh uzi vert✨

          Only one I peeped was “whole lotta money” nigga just repeated that line 20 times lol

          • Lil Burb

            Lol . He trippn

  • ✨luh uzi vert✨

    I didn’t watch the interview they cool again? lol

    • Lil Burb

      Yea they hashed it while ago i think around c5 release or so

      • ✨luh uzi vert✨

        Always knew they would

        • Lil Burb

          Thats waynes baby and that babys son .

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Lmao

  • ✨luh uzi vert✨

    I forgot about Stephanie fine ass why she still making music she should just make porno

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      She an idiot bro

      • ✨luh uzi vert✨

        She slow or sumn?

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    I know your man don’t want the beretta but he’d hate the mag😈😈😈

  • ✨luh uzi vert✨

    I have a confession I didn’t listen to any of the songs I just voted for song of the year hehe

  • SteveJobs

    Why did wayne use a hard R on the “shoot a ****** in his thigh and leg” part of cannon lol

    • JT

      It borderline felt racist, lmao

    • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

      Idk but that verse is easily one of the best in his career?

      • SteveJobs

        Def

  • JT

    Women are trash at being funny… I’m sorry, I dont see why df I gotta get on Twitter a shawty RTs a vid of a white boy jackin off into a frying pan….

  • SteveJobs

    I love watching weird porn and then accidentally getting turned on

    • JT

      Best way to go

  • ReGuarlyiiRReGular

    New leaks are nothing special in my opinion

    • Lil Burb

      i feel da same. i just want that kings and queens track

      • ReGuarlyiiRReGular

        Same only track that intrigued my interest

        • Lil Burb

          rns

  • King Slime Thugger

    Goat shit😈

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Ima finally buy my own mic tonight lol

    • SteveJobs

      Ganggg

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    Ima finally get songs done in a somewhat timely manner. I plan on writing the entire week and then finishing n sending verses out every friday

  • King Slime Thugger

    I got 150 overall finished and still being worked on 😈🏄🏽‍♂️

  • King Slime Thugger

    Stevejobs

    • osamaabinladen

      is gay

  • SteveJobs

    The key to leveling up is to focus on quantity, most rappers spend 3 weeks crafting their first song which is total trash.. when they could have made 21 songs where 4 are decent

    • King Slime Thugger

      I emailed you something 🏄🏽‍♂️

      • SteveJobs

        Bet I will check it out tmoro

  • SteveJobs

    I usually watch Netflix for the last 2 hours of my day. It seems like a waste of time but I don’t have weekends so it kind of balances out

  • King Slime Thugger
  • Lil Burb

    i ate bbc today

    • Lil Burb

      bbq*

      • SteveJobs

        Nvm

        • Lil Burb

          llmaooooo , u hilarious cuh

    • SteveJobs

      Yummm

  • osamaabinladen

    that like 10 year ago

  • Lil Burb

    worked a 11 hr shift got off at 1pm nd been zealous since nd gotta go back in 4 hrs. i kno ima tire out when i get there tho . calllin off .

    • SteveJobs

      Rns grind bro

      • Lil Burb

        mannee bluh . i dont get along with the folks there so thats also a factor. i need 2 find a new way

        • SteveJobs

          Intern at shitty jobs to build skills. Learn sales. Study successful people. Don’t settle for a mediocre life. Eat shit.

          Work a shitty job while you learn new skills. Get a degree. Dropout. Do whatever it takes but don’t settle. Keep the bills paid but treat ur side hustle like a main hustle

          • Lil Burb

            rns

  • Jake Sharma #Khosta’sDad #4-0

    not yet but I have enough lyrics for multiple projects hopefully

  • SteveJobs

    I fw bbq tho I’m getting city bbq Friday 🔥

  • SteveJobs

    I promise you there is someone less qualified than you making more money just because they searched harder and applied to more jobs than you! Someone is making $20 an hour who is half as smart as you

  • King Slime Thugger

    Drizzyf verse on Other Side WHEEEEEEEW

  • TrukFitNANCY

    that updated scottie pippen bump hard asf! that shit had my head bobbin like crazy they better release that bitch asap 😈🔥

  • King Slime Thugger

    HQ linkup that was’t expected

  • Byrdee Boolin

    “Joog” and a bunch of 2017-2018 Wayne songs are gonna be leaking very soon 👀🔥🔥

    • Late

      • Byrdee Boolin

        I’m workin so much that it’s hard to stay up with everything that’s happening. I’m just glad I’ll be able to blast Joog in the whip this summer

  • Carter3 Lil Wayne

    mega.nz/#F!SA830JRD!dMT1Kz–RIOCo7K6r7cnBA

    • LEF – THE RE-UP 5/25

      Ain’t nobody tryna download your Russian midget porn collection 🙄🙄

  • This sounds like Wayne was kinda teaching drake. Yeah drake had the bars but Wayne was all around spazzing, his flow switching, the bars, the delivery and the syllables. Man Wayne floated on this hoe🔥🔥🔥
    https://youtu.be/sGjjcEEB-14

    • K9OUSSAY

      🔥🐐

  • A.

    The Game-From Adam ft Lil Wayne-The Documentary 2.5 (NEW 2015)
    Lil Wayne – Diamonds Dancing
    Lil Wayne – Trust Nobody ft. Adam Levine
    deep 6 – Marilyn Man5on
    Jamiroquai Full live at the Paradiso in Amsterdam 1994

  • Lil Burb

    need more ”pullin” verses from wayne. that shit was hard . the aggression nd energy was a1 nd not speedy . majority of the comments on there are big uppn wayne verse.

  • Lil Burb

    Wayne still got that hungry best rapper alive monster with that infectious swagger in his flow in him that unleashes here and there