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DJ Folk Reveals Why Songs Like “Life Of. Mr Carter” & “Kidnap Cupid” Didn’t Make Lil Wayne’s “Tha Carter V” Album

Mon, Dec 17, 2018 by

DJ Folk Reveals Why Songs Like Life Of Mr Carter & Kidnap Cupid Didnt Make Lil Wayne Tha Carter V Album

Production coordinator DJ Folk wrote an article for DJ Booth after Lil Wayne‘s Tha Carter V album was released to talk about his work on the project, as well as how it felt seeing C5 on hold with the Wayne vs. Birdman lawsuit.

In the article, Folk revealed why some of the songs that we have heard snippets for, such as “Life Of Mr. Carter” (prod. P.C.), “Kidnap Cupid” (co-prod. Megaman and Zalezy), and “World On My Shoulders” (prod. BP) did not make Tha Carter V.

DJ Folk also mentioned that he sent Weezy the “Gotti” and “Hittas” beats, which were produced by Jayones, in the same e-mail back in late 2013, so he is glad that he is now a part of the album with A&Ring “Hittas“. You can read everything that Folk said below!

It’s been a long and winding road since I sent the first batch of beats for Tha Carter V for Lil Wayne back in late 2011, early 2012, but we are finally here.

Last I counted, I submitted well over 300 beats for the album. I was fortunate enough to have Wayne rap on a lot of my submissions. Some you heard via YouTube searching “Carter 5 snippets.” Song titles like “World on My Shoulders” (BP my brother!) or “Kidnap Cupid” (Megaman and Zalezy) might have had you curious as to what the final product would sound like. Well, the wait is finally over as Wayne finally liberated the album that has been stuck in legal purgatory for four-plus years.

The first pack of beats I sent Wayne belonged to this kid A.Jayones, from a production team called G-14. I knew Jayones from our days on OnSmash forums and Boxden, and I would often send Jayones samples, telling him how to structure his beats. Out the blue, Mike Banger (Wayne’s ex-engineer) reached out to me and requested four-to-six beats, telling me to hold them to the side for C5. From my previous experience with Wayne, you send beats up until the last very minute because tracklists are fluid until its time to turn them in.

I’m always digging for samples, whether I’m inspired by a movie score or sequence, or just randomly searching on YouTube. I came across this record by Fiero, “Pink Droid,” which ended up being the inspiration for “Gotti” featuring The Lox. Jayones literally flipped the sample the same day and I sent a three-pack of beats, two of which Wayne ended rapping on, and they asked for the files within a few days.

My brother P.C. sent a beat called “Combo Breaker,” which turned into a record called “Life of Mr. Carter.” A snippet leaked via a Young Money affiliate, via Instagram story, which put the record in jeopardy of making the final album. They called for the files a week after the Jayones beat sessions. I’m like, “Holy shit, this is really happening…” Then what came next was a series of bad breaks.

October 28, 2014. I’m days away from moving down to the Miami area. I get word Wayne is about to drop Jayones’ record “Gotti.” Jayones and I get on the phone excited as fuck; this was a long time coming. Wayne had announced an album would be released in December and then, in short order, he dropped Jayones’ record, which started a mini-frenzy on Twitter. And then nothing.

Two more records dropped in November, but again, nothing stuck. Then silence.

Finally, on December 4, 2014, my birthday, Wayne took to Twitter to voice his displeasure about Cash Money, which led to four years of warring with words and legal dockets—purgatory.

During the project’s purgatory a lot of posturing took place, and as a rap fan, it was disheartening to see Stunna and Wayne at odds. The Cash Money dynasty was self-destructing right before our own eyes. Even with shit at a standstill, though, I continued to send Mack [Maine] beats for Tune, no matter what.

Fast forward three-and-a-half years to June 2018, when the settlement news broke. Immediately, I suspected that the album would be released this fall, and sure enough, I got the call for five songs on the album playlist. The business and paperwork portion of an album release is always chaotic, with label reps scrambling to get everything done on a deadline. That rumored September 21 date was never in play, but the 28th was always a possibility.

All the way up until September 27, the day before the album’s release, everything was topsy-turvy. I honestly didn’t know which records I A&Red would end up making it until the album was actually out. I went dark social media-wise, but behind-the-scenes, I encouraged all of my producers to stay positive.

In the end, “Hittas,” which samples Tasha Baxter’s “Journey” and Lil Boosie’s “Jealousy,” ended up being the one and only record to make the album. This particular Jayones beat, which happens to also be the only song on C5 to feature Drake vocals, was in the same email I sent in late 2013 or 2014 with the “Gotti” beat. Jayones had several other beats in placement contention, but both of us are happy with one. I’m honestly just happy to be part of it.

So, what happens from here? For starters, Wayne is back to dropping new music whenever he wants to. As for Jayones, this is just the start of an exciting career in music. I’m insanely happy for him. Producer Pay Cash, who just missed the final tracklist cut, will also be good in the long run. In disappointment comes even more inspiration to be great.

As for me, I’m actually headed in another direction entirely. Music will always be my passion, but these past two years have been very hard for me personally. If Tha Carter V ends up being my curtain call, hopefully, my success—overachieving to most, but right within the goals I set for myself—inspires the next generation of young A&Rs to stick with the process no matter how long it takes to play out.

Tha Carter V is out, guys. We did it.

Photo credit: Nelson Adrian Banzo.

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  • Scream☁️9FDAWORLD

    World on my shoulders life of mr carter 😭😭😭

    • FoFoBullDogg

      Just the title of the first one sound like a classic

    • I try to get high to get over…

  • Raz!

    they need to release them as bonus songs

  • tvsh

    So that’s it? These songs are just going to sit in the vault forever? Pathetic

    • David D

      We will see

  • tvsh

    Why even record the music if you’re never going to release it

    • Nijee

      They probably going release it when Wayne Dies

    • Tbh not everything you record comes out the way you want it to come out

      • tvsh

        That’s true

  • Nijee

    It’s crazy that Wayne been working on C5 since Early 2012 he recorded a lot of music for it so he probably did 6 different versions of C5

  • Venom
    • Mer

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • David D

      What???

      • Venom

        Lol look at what’s wearing and the comments

    • WeezyF🐐

      His outfit is all over social media. I hope shaderoom post it as well. Wayne is being talked about a lot on blogs whether bad or good ! What can I say I’m proud 2019 wayne and YM year for real !! 🤟🏽

    • Giraffe Boy

      omg

  • Dr Carter

    WHAAAAAAAT WORLD ON MY SHOULDERS WAS FOR C5 ?????! SMH I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE FEELING ABOUT LOMC.. IM SORRY

    • tvsh

      World On My Shoulders, LOMC, Side Bitch, Kidnap Cupid, etc.. Fans are literally being cheated

      • Dr Carter

        On me…

  • David D

    Good read

  • Slime Dwise

    Agreed

  • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

    Out here in line waiting for the tickets

    • RSB

      Is the line Long? Ima be in that mf on friday

      • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

        Yeah i got here at 6am and there’s probably like 150 people ahead and like over 500 behind

        • WeezyF🐐

          Get us some clips of the show nigga

        • RSB

          Gah damn, did you get a ticket ?

  • G.O.A.T worshipper

    When niggas on HQ hear Life Of Mr. Carter come up in a disscussion… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0bf7a3b2d4fb44b9d0cd5c88f53713123902339312ee6cd5e7f594a7d3207236.jpg

    • WeezyF🐐

      I can do without it

      • G.O.A.T worshipper

        Bruh, I think you need to hear the snipp again

        • WeezyF🐐

          I heard it for years i told y’all the song is cool but it’s nit like it’s amazing I ready for wayne and drake collab album

          • G.O.A.T worshipper

            Man you buggin’ that track alone would sound better than 3 albums

            • WeezyF🐐

              You’re Delusional it’s a cool song nothing special Bro 🤷🏾‍♂️

            • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

              Amen

      • Boy

    • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

      No fucking lie, I’m heartbroken rn

    • Giraffe Boy

      buahahahaha

    • LOL

  • WeezyF🐐

    Wayne “Uproar” hit number 1 on urban radio and #6 on Rhythm radio. Talk to me at 7.2M views now within a couple days which recently was stuck at 1.3m views for 2 weeks and now “Scared of the dark” is getting the most views and play on YouTube and streaming services than any song on the soundtrack other than Swae Lee and Post Malone Record! Wayne Going To Fuck Up 2019 WATCH !!

  • Dr Carter

    Side Bitch sounds hella wack to me

    • YungJackBauer

      Noooooo its hella good

      • Young

        Is it out?

        • Giraffe Boy

          no

    • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

      Speak the truth

    • Tuned #Umar

      On god

  • Ahh this is sad two of the snippets I want the most LOMC and Kidnap Cupid smh I hope we see it one day

  • Ninad Ganore

    Side bitch!!!

  • Dude demons is a classic, we can’t complain about it, Mack shoulda added those songs but not remove any

  • World on my shoulders beat is incredible

  • Dr Carter

    Lets dm him on Twitter and instagram. We want those songs

  • Itiz

  • It does

  • 🐐🐐

    She come out here and go both ways make her eat so much pussy need lunch break

  • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

    This article pissed me tf off….so no hint that we can or will hear LOMC, WOMS?? I mean damn man at least tell us a way to hear those tracks if possible…

  • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

    He a hoe hoe hoe ass nigga!

  • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

    Like damn son! Coulda swapped Problems, Mess, Uproar, and What About Me for LOMC, WOMS, KC and Welcome to the Jungle. We got cheated out of the original Open Safe and Start This Shit Off Right…aaaauughhh!!!!

  • Tuned #Umar

    Damn world on my shoulders was for CV? Bitch.

    • Dr Carter

      One of the best snippets

  • Tuned #Umar
    • 🐐🐐

      Lmao fr

      • Tuned #Umar

        Lmao hell na cuh

    • Giraffe Boy

      i am

  • Young

    Is side bitch out?

    • Jamez

      No

    • Bruh that song isn’t even that good

      • jungle_gee

        is it out though?

      • YMYSL 🐍🐍

        L.

  • Jake Sharma #FreeJuelz🐯

    Lmao i guess he can’t comprehend basic reasoning

  • 🐐🐐

    Gucci who👀😂😂 Shout out my nigga Gucci

    • Kennykenkentune#🥀🥀OG

      Classic 😂😂😂

    • Tuned #Umar

      Lmao

    • Giraffe Boy

      classic

  • 🐐🐐

    Kodak again
    Drake again
    Uzi
    Migos

  • These songs gonna pop up at some point in time hopefully

    • Giraffe Boy

      i hope so

  • Old Wayne

  • It does

  • iMont

    What time is the tour today?

  • 🐐🐐

    These Wayne’s fts gave me 2011 vibes this year wayne gotta be comeback artist of the year .

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired

    No. No one would enjoy it. Even Eminem stans who are the most passionate fans wouldn’t want such a thing

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired

    Unless… each track was 1 minute long. Which would be a pretty cool concept 🤔

  • Nijee

    Chris Brown almost pulled it off

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired

    Yall see the Gucci Mane Eminem diss today 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • He’s right tho lol niggas not bumping Eminem like that

      • Tuned #Umar

        Facts

    • Tuned #Umar

      It wasn’t a diss lol. Just the truth

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired

    R u siding with Eminem?????

  • Wayne could

  • I bet if Wayne dropped a 60 song album of unreleased shit from 07-now it’d probably hit

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired
  • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

    Bro they shut that shit down there was too many fights they’re gonna email us a new location to pick up tickets

    • WeezyF🐐

      Ppl were really fighting?

      • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

        Yeah man it was wild some two dudes got knocked out for trying to skip

    • RSB

      Lmao wtf ?

  • Lil Brick 🧱 Retired

    DMX

  • 🐐🐐

    Lol wayne did them bumbu questions

  • Dr Carter

    What was the best hype D6 or C5 ?

    • 🐐🐐

      D6

    • Knudtsen

      Cant be compared

  • Turtis

    Dope read

  • Turtis

    It’s worth the read. Step your literacy up bro it’s not long at all

  • Turtis

    Danny the OG for transcribing this interview in full.

  • A.

    Lil wayne, im tired.

  • FlopFlips

    i wanna hear lomc and joog

  • Knudtsen

    joyner lucas
    kendrick
    Yelawolf
    Jay
    Ye
    Eminem
    50
    royce da 59
    drake
    the game

  • Giraffe Boy

    side bitch?

  • King Slime Thugger

    Khosta biggest bullshiter, dude will say shit like “just came from the club, they had life of Mr. Carter snippet on loop!!”

  • GREAT READ TBH

    WE NEED THESE SONGS

    • YungJackBauer

      Yes bro

  • iMont

    Theu wilk stream the tour??

    • WeezyF🐐

      Yeah

  • Nijee

    Damn They shut down Sprint Store in Houston for fans getting free tickets for Wayne Show

    • WeezyF🐐

      They was getting to wild they had to

  • Nijee

    Wayne is real nigga for doing mini tour for free even though you have to sign up on Tidal

  • iMont

    What time will Lil Wayne perform?

    • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

      7:30 houston time

      • Big Tune or Lil Tune

        9:00

    • WeezyF🐐

      He told me to tell you don’t worry about it

  • THA CARTER 🖐🏼

    After 12 hours of waiting I finally got my ticket

  • Weezy97

    I’m listening to No Ceilings 2 now, this tape is still fire.

  • iMont

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • Dr Carter

    Real niggas remember the Ready 2 Rumble videogame

  • tvsh
  • Dr Carter

    Guess Im not a real nigga :///

  • 🐐🐐

    2 favorite rapper glee

  • Dr Carter

    “You niggas can’t see me, fuck yo binoculars” bars on C4 was mehhh.. but I did not notice cause my english wasnt good enough to be focused on lyrics smh

    • HIDE

      “skate up on u Blum Blum”…

      • Dr Carter

        True.. ahahah

    • Jake Sharma #FreeJuelz🐯

      “YMCMB, we don’t give a fuck
      You faker than some titties, you get tittie fucked”

      • Dr Carter

        😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Nah man you gotta listen to C4 nigga not hear it, it had Hella bars. “Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances. Your family tree, I will break branches. Cuz I don’t give a fuck I put your ass in assassin. Smoke ya like a blunt then it’s Ashes to Ashes. The future is born put the past in a casket. If real shit is dead then nigga I’m bastard. Uhh appetite for disaster. I want a full plate then another plate after…”

      STOP PLAYING

      • Dr Carter

        😂😂😂😂😂😂 sorry

    • I’m a diamond in the rough like a baby in the trash

    • It’s like I have it all but I don’t have to worry

    • Living in the glass and everybody lookin but how can you get the picture if you don’t know who took it?

  • Dr Carter

    “I think you pussycat… Ha ! Hello Kitty” smh

    • 🐐🐐

      I just threw that ally oop to drake griffin

  • Dr Carter

    Daaamn Good Dope from Future is lit asf. Makes me wanna do some club dance moves

  • Dr Carter

    Almost 2019… New Level is still Wayne 2018 best feat and C5 his best Carter. Night

  • Turtis

    New Wayne video bumbu nicki vs Rihanna?

    • YMYSL 🐍🐍

      Late

      • Turtis

        Bro I literally just got home from an exam, I’m an early as I can be

  • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

    Lazy African American!

  • PresidentTrumpOGFurorOfThe45th

    Yuge Suthun Boader Waul!

  • Turtis

    I love the new Wayne bumbu episode, hope he keeps them going.

    • °Jahsehxxx°©

      Finna check it out soon. Its dope?

      • Turtis

        Sorry for the late reply but if you haven’t peeped it yet then you should bro

  • °Jahsehxxx°©

    What’s poppin all my HQ chinks?

  • iMont

    Not sure if they will stream that shit

  • Big Tune or Lil Tune

    I bet uproar was on repeat tho !

  • YMYSL 🐍🐍

    Damn the line for the tickets was long af

  • YMYSL 🐍🐍
  • YMYSL 🐍🐍

    Wayne wearing Balenciaga and not Gucci??? Whaaaa

    • Wayne is rich.

      • YMYSL 🐍🐍

        No one said he was broke? lmao

      • MakKDooz

        It’s pronounced **wayhne.

    • Patrick H

      I wear Trukfit, fuck Gucci.

  • WeezyF🐐

    Y’all seen the can’t be broken clip of wayne on tidal he using his rockstar voice I hear the hunger I swear to god go on Twitter

  • Day1_la_laker

    Wym?

  • Which concert gonna be streamed ?

    • Patrick H

      The Chicago one.

  • Weezy F Baldy

    where my old lady imma kill that bitch

  • MakKDooz

    On the for rilla my nigga
    Just call me Scarface

  • MakKDooz

    What up dough?
    That secret concert in h-town was live
    Hadda get to that hoe ass sprint store at 5:30am to get my tickets but I got ‘em.
    Shot was packed, fam.

    AND YOU STILL AINT SEEN A FUK’N THANG UNTIL YOU C5…

    Edit:
    The best things in life are free not cheap, free c5.

    • Patrick H

      Dope.

    • Quirro Green

      I tried to go smh but after they changed locations, I was like fuck that 😂

      • MakKDooz

        No, they didn’t.. you’re not a fan.
        They never said where the location was.
        They emailed it to us.
        They never changed it.
        It was always house of blues.

  • Patrick H

    New post.

  • bostonstrong508

    Still want that side bitch joint

  • MARTIAN

    Yea trully